Columbia-Barnard relationship - Revision history

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 == Housing ==
-Barnard and Columbia have their own housing stock and housing systems. Barnard and Columbia College/[[SEAS]] undergrads have historically not had swipe access to each others [[:Category:Residence halls|residence halls]]. Students on both sides of the street have varying opinions on this policy. Some Barnard students believe they should have access to Columbia undergraduate dorms, but CC/SEAS undergraduates should not have access to the Barnard dorms because only girls (or mostly girls) live in these dorms and thus Barnard dorms have extra security risks. Other students from both CC/SEAS and Barnard believe that neither of the two undergraduate populations should have access to the other's dorms. The two student populations belong to separate schools, these students argue, and thus each should only have access to their own dorms and the resources therein. Finally there are students, both from Barnard and CC/SEAS, who believe that all the undergraduates within Columbia University should have access to each other's dorms. Students of this view generally argue that the two student populations are not really separate and that it is inconvenient for both Barnard and CC/SEAS students to not be able to swipe into each others dorms.
+Barnard and Columbia have their own housing stock and housing systems. Barnard and Columbia College/[[SEAS]] undergrads have historically not had swipe access to each others [[:Category:Columbia undergraduate residence halls|residence halls]]. Students on both sides of the street have varying opinions on this policy. Some Barnard students believe they should have access to Columbia undergraduate dorms, but CC/SEAS undergraduates should not have access to the Barnard dorms because only girls (or mostly girls) live in these dorms and thus Barnard dorms have extra security risks. Other students from both CC/SEAS and Barnard believe that neither of the two undergraduate populations should have access to the other's dorms. The two student populations belong to separate schools, these students argue, and thus each should only have access to their own dorms and the resources therein. Finally there are students, both from Barnard and CC/SEAS, who believe that all the undergraduates within Columbia University should have access to each other's dorms. Students of this view generally argue that the two student populations are not really separate and that it is inconvenient for both Barnard and CC/SEAS students to not be able to swipe into each others dorms.
 The most recent attempt to enact swipe access between schools was scuttled by [[CCSC]] in 2009, citing the fact that Barnard and Columbia have separate security offices and separate swipe access systems, which makes integrating too difficult and costly. Recently there was an [[SGA]] campaign for a compromised "Flash Access," in which Barnard/CC/SEAS undergraduates would be able to sign a special security contract and then would be able to themselves sign into the other schools dorm.

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 ==Equal billing vs. separate identity==
-Typically Barnard's administration is fiercely territorial when it comes to getting equal billing with Columbia. For example, [[NSOP]] is the "Barnard-Columbia Orientation Program." Past NSOP coordinators have reported getting shit for failing to make sure Barnard appeared alongside Columbia in all instances.) Where's the agitation for Barnard's "identity" on facebook? Or e-mails? For a school that insists on having its own "identity", there's no issue about getting "Columbia" addresses. A possible solution would be to grant Barnard students "@barnard.columbia.edu" domain addresses to differentiate Barnard email addresses. Other divisions of the University do similar things for their students or faculty (@gsb.columbia.edu for the [[Columbia Business School|B-School]], @law.columbia.edu for [[Columbia Law School|Law]] faculty, etc.) The same applies to diplomas- why don't the Trustees of Barnard College confer degrees on their students? Barnard's more than happy to take those Columbia issued degrees without a peep about identity.
+Typically Barnard's administration is fiercely territorial when it comes to getting equal billing with Columbia. For example, [[NSOP]] is the "Barnard-Columbia Orientation Program." Past NSOP coordinators have reported getting shit for failing to make sure Barnard appeared alongside Columbia in all instances.)
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 ===Selectivity===
 Some Columbia students argue that Barnard students identifying themselves as "Columbia students" cheapen Columbia students' prestige, as they believe admission to Columbia is considerably more selective than to Barnard. They point to figures such as Barnard's somewhat lower median SAT scores and higher [[Admissions|acceptance rate]]. Columbia does not report the high school GPA's of entering students, and there is no evidence of any discrepancy in performance of Barnard students when enrolled in Columbia University classes.
 == References ==

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−	[[Columbia University]] and [[Barnard College]] are two independent institutions with a long shared history and a close, somewhat unique, [[:Category:School relationships\|relationship]].<ref>http://www.barnard.edu/catalog/college.php</ref> Complications in this relationship often lead to misconceptions and endless bickering among students. The relationship between the institutions has been governed since [[1900]] by an [[Columbia-Barnard Intercorporate Agreement\|intercorporate agreement]] that is renegotiated or renewed every 10 years. [[Columbia College]] began admitting female students in [[1983]], creating a potential redundancy between the schools.A corporate agreement between Columbia University and Barnard College establishes the basic affiliation arrangements that persist to the present. Barnard is to have its own trustees, faculty, and financial responsibilites; the academic head of Barnard is to be a dean in the University, and Barnard graduates are to receive Columbia degrees <ref>http://c250.columbia.edu/c250_celebrates/people_and_ideas/people_ideas_3.html</ref>/	+	[[Columbia University]] and [[Barnard College]] are two independent institutions with a long shared history and a close, somewhat unique, [[:Category:School relationships\|relationship]].<ref>http://www.barnard.edu/catalog/college.php</ref> Complications in this relationship often lead to misconceptions and endless bickering among students. The relationship between the institutions has been governed since [[1900]] by an [[Columbia-Barnard Intercorporate Agreement\|intercorporate agreement]] that is renegotiated or renewed every 10 years. [[Columbia College]] began admitting female students in [[1983]], creating a potential redundancy between the schools.A corporate agreement between Columbia University and Barnard College establishes the basic affiliation arrangements that persist to the present. Barnard is to have its own trustees, faculty, and financial responsibilites; the academic head of Barnard is to be a dean in the University, and Barnard graduates are to receive Columbia degrees <ref>http://c250.columbia.edu/c250_celebrates/people_and_ideas/people_ideas_3.html</ref>.

	==Summary==		==Summary==

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−	[[Columbia University]] and [[Barnard College]] are two independent institutions with a long shared history and a close, somewhat unique, [[:Category:School relationships\|relationship]].<ref>http://www.barnard.edu/catalog/college.php</ref> Complications in this relationship often lead to misconceptions and endless bickering among students. The relationship between the institutions has been governed since [[1900]] by an [[Columbia-Barnard Intercorporate Agreement\|intercorporate agreement]] that is renegotiated or renewed every 10 years. [[Columbia College]] began admitting female students in [[1983]], creating a potential redundancy between the schools.A corporate agreement between Columbia University and Barnard College establishes the basic affiliation arrangements that persist to the present. Barnard is to have its own trustees, faculty, and financial responsibilites; the academic head of Barnard is to be a dean in the University, and Barnard graduates are to receive Columbia degrees.[http://c250.columbia.edu/c250_celebrates/people_and_ideas/people_ideas_3.html]	+	[[Columbia University]] and [[Barnard College]] are two independent institutions with a long shared history and a close, somewhat unique, [[:Category:School relationships\|relationship]].<ref>http://www.barnard.edu/catalog/college.php</ref> Complications in this relationship often lead to misconceptions and endless bickering among students. The relationship between the institutions has been governed since [[1900]] by an [[Columbia-Barnard Intercorporate Agreement\|intercorporate agreement]] that is renegotiated or renewed every 10 years. [[Columbia College]] began admitting female students in [[1983]], creating a potential redundancy between the schools.A corporate agreement between Columbia University and Barnard College establishes the basic affiliation arrangements that persist to the present. Barnard is to have its own trustees, faculty, and financial responsibilites; the academic head of Barnard is to be a dean in the University, and Barnard graduates are to receive Columbia degrees <ref>http://c250.columbia.edu/c250_celebrates/people_and_ideas/people_ideas_3.html</ref>/

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 ==External Links==
-* [http://www.barnard.columbia.edu/about/columbia.html Extensive discussion on Barnard's site]
+* [http://web.archive.org/web/20010922025301/http://www.barnard.columbia.edu/about/columbia.html Extensive discussion on Barnard's site]
-* [http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/cuhis3057/Timelines/BCCUTimeline.htm timeline] From History BC 3457
+* [http://web.archive.org/web/20020428142945/http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/cuhis3057/Timelines/BCCUTimeline.htmtimeline] From History BC 3457
 Fall 2004 "Columbia University: A Social History
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 * [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,955006,00.html Columbia Decides to Go Coed] Time Magazime, Feb. 1, 1982
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